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Nesbit Ferry traffic light discussions continue
by Angela Spencer
aspencer@neighbornewspapers.com
September 19, 2012 09:17 AM | 3243 views | 6 6 comments | 28 28 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Conversations have occurred between the cities of Johns Creek and Roswell to discuss the possibility of a traffic light at the intersection of Nesbit Ferry and Brumbelow roads.

At this point all of Nesbit Ferry Road is within Roswell city limits, but Johns Creek council has said they have gotten complaints about the intersection from their residents who travel Brumbelow Road and turn onto Nesbit Ferry, citing safety concerns.

Roswell Mayor Jere Wood, Johns Creek Mayor Mike Bodker, Roswell Councilwoman Betty Price and Johns Creek Councilman Ivan Figueroa met a few weeks ago to discuss the intersection. At this point no official offers or proposals have been made or agreed upon.

Initially, conversations were about a partnership to install a light at the intersection to relieve some safety concerns. Wood said that he is open to a partnership between the two cities not just for that intersection, but for the road itself.

“I am open to a partnership with Johns Creek, but a partnership needs to be across the board,” he said. “I would welcome a partnership but a partnership on not just the intersection, but the road.”

In an update to other Johns Creek councilmembers, Figueroa echoed the shared-road idea.

“In addition to moving the border so that we both have jurisdiction – and of course what comes with that is the requirement to maintain the road – [Roswell] would offer to pay for the half of the light at Nesbit Ferry and Brumbelow to the tune of $100,000.”

Roswell has completed a traffic warrant study on the intersection. Wood said he a traffic light is warranted but the question of priority compared to other Roswell traffic projects must be taken into account.

“The question is priority,” he said. “We do not have the money to do every project that is warranted.”

Figueroa also said he asked for Roswell to bring the road up to a certain standard before Johns Creek agreed to a proposal where it would inherit half of the road. Wood maintained his stance that the project “needs to be equal.”

The ball is in Johns Creek’s court at this point, and the councilmembers sent the ideas to their staff for further analysis.

Johns Creek Councilwoman Karen Richardson said she did not see the advantage of inheriting additional road.

“I am unconvinced,” she said after the conversation sprung to include other possibilities along the north right-of-way on Nesbit Ferry. “Nothing has convinced me that it makes sense to take on a road or a portion of the road … We really don’t have anything in front of us that tells us this makes sense except speculation.”

Do you think a traffic light is needed at Nesbit Ferry and Brumbelow Roads?


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Homeowner comment
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September 29, 2012
Nesbit Ferry has accidents all the time...some even have been fatal accidents...it is a curving, winding road and folks do not slow down...we need another stoplight and also some turn lanes into all the subdivisions on Nesbit Ferry Rd. Sometimes it is impossible to turn into and exit these subdivisions safely.
tooba
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September 22, 2012
I'm finally going to listen to the elephant in the room saying its time to move out of this area. Life has become unenjoyable (my newly coined word) because of mismanaged situations like these over and over again.
Frustrated with Road
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September 20, 2012
Ivan,

I understand and appreciate your point, but placing a stop light there will slow down traffic, but having lived near that intersection for over 20 years, the traffic will become worse on Nesbit Ferry. I would actually prefer a traffic circle like the one on Grimes Bridge Road. Traffic keeps moving and easy to navigate.

If a stop light is approved, some thought needs to be gived regarding the timing of the lights. I was driving to the JC Recycling program on Saturday and it took me 10 minutes to drive from Scott Road past Jones Bridge because after I passed each stop light the next one was red by the time I got there. If they were timed properly, traffic pattern would be better, gas consumption would be better and people's attitudes would be better.

But if you are still in favor of this traffic light, then maybe you should install a stop light in front of Mayfair or St. Clair. We have the same issue as residents who live on Brumbelow.

In fact it gets exaggerated because residents who live off of Brumbelow, routinely cut through Mayfair in order to get home or to work exit in and out of Mayfair and in many cases are going faster than the speed limit.

Way too much time, money and effort being spent on a traffic light.
Frustrated with Road
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September 19, 2012
I am amazed that we are wasting so much time and effort on a stop light. As was previously mentioned last month, if a stop light is added at Nesbit and Brumbelow, we will have 8 stop lights on Nesbit Ferry & Old Alabama roads between Newtown Park and the back entrance to Target. This is a 3.8 mile stretch of road and there will be 8 stop lights. This is a stop light every half of a mile.

We wonder why traffic is getting worse.
Ivan Figueroa
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September 20, 2012
Traffic lights do slow traffic. Traffic lights also save lives. If you live off of Brumbelow your alternatives are Nesbit at the risk that someone slows down, or Old Alabama back to Nesbit on your way to Holcomb Bridge Road. It is matter of quality of life, and my priorities are always to those who have to deal with that issue,every time. It may slow you ten seconds, but make a difference in someone's life from this point on.

Regards,

Ivan
Michael Hadden
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September 30, 2012
This is a perfect situation for a roundabout. Roundabouts significantly cut injury accidents and serious injury crashes are reduced by an even higher margin. This occurs even though traffic is still able to move through without coming to a complete stop (in most cases). You don't have to maintain and pay for any lights.

The Grimes Bridge, Norcross St roundabout in Roswell is a great example of how a roundabout can improve flow, reduce injuries and create a better looking intersection.
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