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Johns Creek residents upset about questionable activity at massage parlors
by Nicole Dow
April 23, 2013 11:31 AM | 8633 views | 16 16 comments | 12 12 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Johns Creek residents addressed Mayor Mike Bodker and city councilmembers Monday night to see what action the city could take to crack down on alleged illegal activity at massage parlors in the city.

Rumors and suspicion of massage parlors offering sexual services and possibly engaging in human trafficking were the common worries expressed by community members.

Johns Creek resident Glenda Brown said a surprising conversation she had with a local high school student a while back has stuck with her.

“He mentioned how some guys from his athletic team even go to massage parlors,” she said. “He implied that they were going for sexual activities, not just for massages.”

She urged city officials to do everything they can to make sure teens and children were not exposed to businesses engaging in such activity.

Ash Thourani, a board member of the St. Ives Homeowners Association, had a similar message for the mayor and city council.

“Please take this issue seriously,” he said. “It affects our home values. It affects our community. It affects our kids.”

City Manager John Kachmar shared in residents’ concerns. After the council meeting, Kachmar led an informal conversation with residents along with City Attorney Bill Riley and Police Chief Ed Densmore.

Kachmar told the crowd the massage parlors allegedly offering illegal services appear to be part of organized operations and are a problem in the city, though the police department has been making progress through arrests, and some businesses have been denied licenses.

“There is an invasion of these establishments in the greater Atlanta area,” he said. “There are 12 in this city.”

He reminded citizens of the constitutional rights of which they can take advantage.

“You have the right of freedom of speech,” he said. “We, the city, issue permits for demonstrations in rights-of-way.”

Densmore said public demonstrations may not intimidate the business owners themselves but may deter their clientele from patronizing those places.

In the meantime, he said the police department will continue to crack down on violations at massage parlors with intentions to catch the individuals organizing the operations.
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Creek of Johns
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July 05, 2013
If you did not want prostitution why call it Johns Creek after the creek where all the johns hung out in the late 1800s?
johnny appleseed
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May 02, 2013
There are arrests at gas stations for selling beer to minors, should we shut down all the gas stations? Bank America was charged with cheating people in mortgage loans, should we shut down the banks in johns Creek? There was a teacher in Johns Creek arrested for assault, should we shut down the high school? I don't doubt there might be a place or two that have had an issue. But if anybody ever took the time to walk in these places, most of the therapist are licensed, in the thirties to forties, married with kids, just trying to make a decent living in this country, just like the rest of it.

Like the State Farm commercial, you can't put anything on the internet if its not true, right?
Arnie A
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April 28, 2013
The cities of Duluth, Alpharetta, Sandy Springs and Johns Creek have cracked down on these Asian massage parlors with arrests for law and ordinance violations. Do a Google search and you will see that this is a problem nationwide and many cities have done the same as the 4 mentioned.

For you doubters out there, just what do you know that law enforcement does not know?

Oh, Mellynel, check out the license plates of the patrons. Johns Creek is not in Gwinnett and Forsyth counties.
Mellynel
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April 28, 2013
Uh-oh. I think the rich housewives of Johns Creek need to start taking better care of their men.
Bill Lee
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April 24, 2013
When someone is charged with prostitution they are booked and thier mugshot can be found online. Alos it makes the news especially in Johns Creek. But I can't find anyone arrested or charged in Johns Creek. Who are they? Where do they work? These phantom people. Also where and when were these 16 undeaged girls discovered? Not in Johns Creek. Not at one of these Massage Spas. Stop mixing the two. Where are the ads you speak of in Johns Creek. Where are they? Post the link. They don't exist. Also just because someone on the Internet posts in n adult website or chat forums that he got some woman to do something doesn't mean it is true. Men have been known to lie about sex from time to time. Post some actual proof before you jump on the band wagon. Where is your proof?
Meeting Attender
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April 24, 2013
As mentioned, you'll find it via the Freedom of Information Act and also through meetings with government officials. If you care not to accept this information then one would have to say that our government leaders are deceitful. But, they have no reason to make this up or spend the money they have in fighting this problem. You also cannot look at this as a Johns Creek problem only, it happens in most of our north suburbs. If you only attempt to solve the problem in Johns Creek, the issue simply moves from one location to another. A solution must be found in co-operation between government officials of different cities in the area. If you want to see a website, here is one: http://www.rubmaps.com/johns-creek-massage-parlors-ga. Yes, I think men create fantasies about sex and certainly not everything on the Internet is true. But if I owned a legitimate massage parlor I would do everything possible to get my name off of a site like the one above. I would want no association with this kind of promotion, the comments potentially left by customers, nor the impression it would make on people needing a massage for health reasons. The 16 underaged girls where discovered in Sandy Springs. I think this is enough to say about proving this if you really want to find out you can.
Bill Lee
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April 25, 2013
I agree with some of what you say but the point is that you can't lump all these places in johns creek in one bucket and that's what they are doing. Also. You can't get them to take down from that site. I k ow people who have tried. I also know some people post fake info so that business get in trouble and get shut down to force out competition.
Meeting Attender
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April 24, 2013
City council members, police, zoning, city managers and arrest records from Johns Creek, Sandy Springs and Duluth have all confirmed to be true what is claimed to be "knee jerk politics." All of these parlors offer a legitimate business upfront so that they can secure operating licenses but many are also providing services that are not legal which they promote and advertise on the Internet. In one of our north suburban cities, 16 underaged girls were discovered providing services and many are undocumented. There is proof, people have been arrested, illegal activity does occur, disease is being spread, and all of us should care greatly about the abuse to women that is part of this industry. If you care to read the customer reviews on the adult websites that promote erotic massage in Johns Creek (and other cities) you will see that many of the massage parlors are providing illegitimate services and likely not paying their proper business tax either. Also, use your rights through the Freedom of Information Act and go secure arrest records from your city. You'll find the proof. As citizens of the communities where we pay taxes and have in deed helped create, this is our business.
Jenn T
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April 24, 2013
I don't agree. There have been no arrests and all of this is alledged. No proof. Just typical knee jerk politics in the Bible Belt. People are upset because they think guys are getting more than a massage? Take out the garbage? What does that even mean? I could understand if there were prostitution arrests but I have not seen any. I have not even seen ads for prostitution. What is all the fuss about? Move on people
Tom C
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April 24, 2013
Why can't these people just mind their own business.
Michelle Altman
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April 23, 2013
I have been to the place on the new s called Serinity. It's a great place. I highly doubt any of the people who work there would be doing anything illegal. I can't speak for all the places but I like the fact that there are options for a low cost masaage in our community. I was not at the meeting but it seemed to most of the busy bodies. Move on people
Sherry Hill
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April 23, 2013
I Agee somewhat. I think people are just afraid of what net don't know. This has always been a closed community of white people
anonymous
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April 23, 2013
There is nothing racist about the complaints of the citizens. In fact, many outstanding Asian citizens attended the meeting with the Johns Creek City Council to voice their concern. These residents are offended by the promotion of these parlors as asian massage while offering other illegal services. Many of these parlors blatantly advertise their services on websites with comments from customers that leave no doubt in your mind about what they do. If this portion of Medlock Bridge Road is such a great spot for a massage, which can be very useful, why are none of the brand names in the area? Please, before judging the citizens who attended the meeting, I'd suggest you secure more factual information.

L Allan
Bill Lee
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April 23, 2013
I find it ironic that many places that offer massages have been in business in this area for years and have never been suspect of any problems. Nail salons, Massage Envy, Spa Sydell, Chiropractors etc all give massage but apparently they dont do anything wrong. Why is it that these people are only targeting Chinese imigrants? Are they racisit? Do they think Chinese people are somehow doing things illegal. My guess is that if white people owned these same bsuinesses and if white people were giving the massages we would not be having this conversation. What do I have to say these protesters? Go get a chinese massage and try it out. It's less expensive and very healthy. Dont be afraid of something that is foriegn. Chinese are people not animals. Good people, Not criminals.
Lucas Sanders
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April 24, 2013
Did you not read the whole article before making your claims of racism? The city manager said it was an organized group and a known problem in the city. This is about illegal activity and nothing more.
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